What follows is the transcript (auto generated) of the interview with Katie Johnson regarding Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. It has not been edited except to remove the time stamps. Because of auto-generation of captions, there may be some small discrepancies between the text and what was actually said.
Warning: Graphic description of sexual abuse of children
The video is here: https://youtu.be/TRZa_cVshcI Katie Johnson’s Full Testimony of 2 11 16
Edit: There is no conclusive evidence proving the video is real or that the woman depicted is genuinely “Katie Johnson” from the lawsuit. The testimony matches the language in a now-dismissed legal complaint but has not been independently authenticated by credible news outlets, fact-checkers, or investigators. The veracity of both the accuser’s identity and her allegations against Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein remains unproven and highly disputed. This transcript and the link to the video are presented here as a part of the whole.
I came to this interview on my free will
no there was nothing promised to me for
doing this interview excellent yes
everything that I say at this interview
will be the truth um I met Donald Trump
um at some parties I attend um that I
was working um for Mr Jeffrey
Epstein um there was about three or four
times that I um had encounters with
Donald Trump I was 13
the first time that I met Donald Trump
uh was at uh a party at Jeffrey
Epstein's um
Mansion uh we
were he was there was a um an orgy going
on and he
was kind of watching off in the distance
um
and and he basically asked
um if I could come over
and give him um give him a hand job and
at first I wasn't very comfortable with
it this was like my first you know first
party and I I didn't you know I didn't
think that that was my
responsibility uh but my recruiter told
me that I needed to do it um so I agreed
to and um then he you know I said I
began to sorry this is um a little
difficult but um
before I gave him a hand job he kind of
slapped my hand away and said um you
need to use a glove and the recruiter
ran over and handed me a glove and said
no one touches Mr Trump's penis without
a glove so I needed to use a glove I um
gave him a hand job and then um
immediately after you know he had an
orgasm he left and I didn't see him
again at that party Jeffrey Epstein um
is a billionaire friend of Donald
Trump's that um was responsible for
throwing the sex parties um there was um
I originally um came to New York trying
to be a model and um in my travels I met
a girl named Tiffany there um who um was
very interested in me and said that you
know she that's what she did is that she
helped girls you know get what they
wanted and and and she could help me get
get into modeling that she knew a lot of
um people that were that were higher ups
and that it would be no problem um and
so that's why you know she but I would
just basically have to come model um at
a couple of events and meet some people
there would be no sweat so um of course
I went you know that sounded like no big
deal um and she was recruiting the girls
to come to these
parties um and and they all looked I
mean most of them were you know my age
there was you know maybe a couple girls
that were maybe 14 or 15 but it seemed
to me like we were all very young so
okay um Jeffrey Epstein knew that I was
um 13 years old uh when he interviewed
me um he asked me to get um down to my
BR my just my panties and I thought that
was weird but I mean modeling maybe it
was something about my figure um and he
asked that I give him a massage so
he then he asked me my age he asked me
and I told him you know told him that I
was 13 I told him why I was there um and
and he basically said well you'll do you
know I'm sure that you'll you'll fit
pretty nicely here and then he he tried
to uh basically um slip himself inside
of me and I I pushed him away and I said
you know I'm I'm cuz at that point in
time I still believed that there was
models and then there was the girls that
did that like I thought there was a sep
ation so um I I told him that I wasn't
interested in that but he said that I
would do um and as far as Donald Trump
um he knew that I was 13 and I believe
that Tiffany told him he seemed to take
a liking to me because I was a I was so
young um and um I was also a virgin so I
don't know he's it seemed like he wasn't
really into having um having girls that
that were liked by the other guys he
kind of you know the whole glove he kind
of liked things to be his first you know
that for lack of you know a better term
but he was the one who
wanted to um get to get to a girl before
everyone else did Donald Trump knew that
I was 13 um because the first the first
night that I was there uh Tiffany
actually suggested that and she had a
whole bunch of different wigs and I
express interest in them you know I
always told her that I would love to
walk around with blue hair and so I
tried some on and um there was a blonde
wig that that that she said that looked
great on me so I wore that wig um and
Donald Trump had specifically asked
about me because I remind him of his
daughter and she said well she's 13 as
well so he knew the first time that he
saw me but he took a liking to me
because I look like his daughter
the reason I'm coming out now um is when
it happened originally I just wanted to
forget about the whole incident uh and
when I saw that he was running for
president um I felt it was my
responsibility to come out and tell our
country um what kind of man this person
is um I don't think that he should even
be the dog catcher let alone running uh
the greatest country in the world after
I met Tiffany at the bus station um
she took me to basically went to her
house her apartment and got ready um I
put on a blonde wig because it seemed
fun to pretend to be someone different
but uh we went to the party that that I
was basically inter interviewing for um
and Jeffrey Epstein was the one that was
running the party um he had a quick
meeting with everyone that was um
employed there and then um he had um a
private interview with me the first time
that I met Jeffrey Epstein um he did try
to force
himself um inside of me without getting
to go ahead or anything um and then um
on the it
was probably about the third or fourth
party is when um he basically
um uh forced was it was another massage
and it was basically like it wasn't sex
um but it was there was penetration and
I told him that I didn't want that but
um he kind of got a little irritated so
I don't know there was something about
him that
um I guess I kind of um held him like I
held a lot of resentment towards him by
that time that that happened I I kind of
already started catching on that maybe I
wasn't there for modeling and maybe I
was just getting used for things and I
felt that kind of held him
responsible um I did receive money to go
to these parties after every um party um
I was paid by Mr Mr
Epstein there
wasn't out of all the girls that were
there with me I never I've most of them
were 13 14 I think the oldest one might
have
been 16 just but just turned 16 um and
she'd been there for a
while um it was actually it was Tiffany
um he
was it he was he he liked to watch other
people have sex I I I it was must and he
he's a germ doesn't like germs so he
rather than partaking he just watches so
um and Tiffany had informed him that I
was the Virgin um and
so he was I was
basically um
sorry I I I so it was Tiffany who
introduced us
okay second time that I saw Mr Trump um
was same scenario he was uh on looking
some at an orgy and uh Tiffany came over
to me and said that Donald Donald Trump
had requested that I perform oral sex on
him um and and never I'd never done
something like that with anybody so I
was a little nervous um so I walked up
to him uh and and he was standing
sitting there very proud like and I just
kind of moved in that direction and he
kind of slapped me away and said what
are you doing you know you need to put a
condom on like I was some like dirty
filter or something without a condom and
Tiffany ran over um and handed him a you
know me a condom and apologized you know
profusely and said that would never
happen again um that that and she looked
at me and and scolded me basically like
a child and said that that's not how you
know Donald Trump always you know any
time you touch his penis it needs to
have a condom on or glove you know you
owe and especially when it comes
performing oral sex so um I apologized
and then um I performed oral sex on him
and once again once he was done he
hopped up and that's the last I saw of
him at that party it's like once he's
done out so okay okay sometimes before
the I some of the things that I noticed
that were weird with him was sometimes
before the parties he would come over um
and him Jeffrey Epstein and himself
would kind of banter back and forth and
he was very uh Donald Trump was very
racist he said a lot of racist things
like there was uh there was a lot of
comments um towards Mr Epstein about you
know being Jewish um and you called him
a Jew bastard you know so that he was
Chap and there was some words I didn't
even understand something about um his
his P you know the shape of his penis um
being directly related to his mole or I
mean I'm I'm not too familiar with the
Jew you know the Jewish tradition so but
I'm pretty sure that whatever he was
saying wasn't very nice um also referred
to you know people of Hispanic or you
know Hispanic n they called him spicks
um was that was around the first time
that the World Trade Center had gotten
the bombed in the in the '90s um and he
was you know talking about the towel
heads and how you know we would just be
better off if we you know uh didn't let
him in or you know basically got rid of
everyone every single one that was
already here and I thought I just that
it made me really uncomfortable really
really uncomfortable he also loved to to
call black people um
[ __ ] and he um Arabic people he
called sand
[ __ ] um the only time that um that he
tried to give me some money was the last
our last encounter
together um where he acted out of rape
fantasy um it just
um I was forced to I was forced to give
that money back because
uh Jeffrey Epstein paid us um after the
party so but he just gave me the money I
I don't even know why he gave it to me
maybe to make me feel more cheap but it
was um it was a pretty I it was a rap
fantasy to him but I I wasn't playing so
there was those there was those two
times um and then there was after the
next the next thing that was that
Tiffany approaching with was that he had
a fantasy where he walked in on his maid
um Maids basically making out and that
he it was some type of fantasy for him
so she asked I mean I was at that point
I was like I don't want to be involved
with anything that has to do with him
but she's like you were just basically
the the other one so there's nothing
that you will have to do just don't you
know just he wants he's requesting you
to be involved so um I
reluctantly I mean I don't I I felt like
I didn't have a choice there but
um it was basically he's walking in his
two Maids I was one of the maids I was
the white maid and there was um a
Spanish girl U Maria who was the
Hispanic maid and we were making out and
he walks in and he gets really angry and
threatens to send call Immigration on
Maria if she doesn't come over and make
things right and give him a
[ __ ] so
while she is over there giving him a
[ __ ] I am just look trying to you
know I'm supposed to look scared like oh
oh no you know and you cleaning try to
cleaning up things and pretending like
I'm trying to go back to my job as a
maid um and then he he's being so rude
to Maria I felt so bad for her um even
though I guess it just didn't seem like
a fantasy it didn't it didn't seem like
it it's the weirdest fantasy
as far as that you know he was
threatening he was threatening to call
Immigration on her you know so that she
didn't know how to you know she went to
she wasn't even near going down to give
him um perform oral sex on him before he
slapped her away and said you know what
are you doing you know you need to put a
condom on and and she's trying to M you
know I'm so sorry and he's like you
can't even can't even understand what
you're saying you know just you speak
English you know called her derogatory
um comments um and then he's like you
know what you don't know what you're
doing have her come over and show you
how it's done and
so I
again I said that I didn't you know I
had to go over there or else he was
going to call Immigration on Maria I
didn't know if it was true or not but I
felt that you know he said that if I
wasn't if I didn't show her how to
perform oral sex on him then he was
going to
um call Immigration on her and then get
rid of us
both you know it was anything that was
in relation to him getting off or being
satisfied or happy had to do with him
being in power but extreme power and
it's it's very
um it's very hard to even it was it was
always intimidating when he was like
that it was always you didn't really
know if it is true or I mean like if you
refuse to play along would he really
call Immigration on Maria would he
really get rid of us both and I didn't
even want to know what that meant you
know I always didn't it wasn't a
game it just felt like it wasn't a game
yeah the one night that I had the blonde
wig on um he mentioned that I looked
like you know I looked like to you know
that I reminded him of his daughter um
and actually the the the maid
fantasy I didn't have a blonde wig on I
was trying to stay away from blonde wigs
since the time but he actually requested
told Tiffany that that's what he wanted
me to wear like he wanted it and he's
and anytime I put it on anytime I had it
on and he'd see me he would say oh man
you look just and it wasn't like a oh
you remind me of my daughter it was this
sick evil like H you remind me of my
daughter it was just this weird pleasure
sick smile like I I don't even want to
know what he was thinking about I I
could imagine what he was thinking about
after the parties would end uh we were
to report to Mr Epstein and basically
tell him everything that happened uh
with who um what they liked what they
disliked if there was any requests if
there was any um talk about anything uh
that's what you know we told Mr abstein
everything and then he paid us and then
we got to go home and most with me you
know I would either you know I normally
got
taken taken to the airport you know so
to go back home the fact that Trump has
a chance to be the next president makes
me feel disgusting inside I've always
been proud to be an American I think we
live in a beautiful
country but I just see him ruining
everything he's a horrible what he
portrays on the outside isn't even that
great but people don't even know the
half of how evil how sick and twisted
that man is I have a friend that's been
my
friend ever since the school year that I
stopped going you know the the eighth
grade I confided her and she knows all
about it she knows everything I mean I I
destroyed everything of like you know
any planes to I didn't I couldn't risk
my my dad finding out um and now I think
I'm old enough to
where I think I don't think you I at
that point I didn't want to not be his
little girl you know I
didn't want to lose my dad basically I I
any I would never uh as far as keeping
proof of any of the trips um the only
person I never told my parents you know
I there would be no happy you know there
would be no good outcome of telling my
parents you know they would have
grounded me
um I would have never been allowed of
the house you know my my father would
have come unglued um I did tell a friend
my best she's still my best friend of
this day she knows everything she knows
it all I'm prepared to do whatever it
takes to
save the country that I believe that we
have I know what he does behind P like
closed doors like if it if that's all
I'm willing to sacrifice my life to put
our country back to in the right like
going maybe in some type of positive
direction not even there's no right or
wrong but a positive direction this
guy's not going to take us anywhere
positive you know as far as um my life
changing by coming out with this
information I've thought long and hard
about um whether or not I should uh and
I've gone back and forth um but I think
that I I can't I think that the American
people need to know what kind of man
this person is
um and if my life changes because of
that then so be it but the American
people need to know what they're dealing
with if I had the chance to talk to
Donald Trump I would run the other way
I'm scared of him like I've never been
scared of any anything else in my entire
life I I I can't I can't explain it to
you but I just the fear of him even
being in the Next Room
make I have a panic I would have I have
a panic
attack um the last encounter that I had
with Donald Trump um Tiffany approached
me about um a rape scene that was
supposed to be played out and
I didn't like I didn't like the sound of
that at all but um Tiffany prom ured me
that it wasn't going to be if I if it
was anything I wasn't comfortable with
we could stop um that she would be right
there and that um it would it wouldn't
get out of it wouldn't get out of hand
and that um it was just it was a fantasy
like it wasn't really going to happen um
and so she I told her that I would uh
she she basically I mean Tiffany was
always nice to me she wasn't that I felt
I trusted her else I you know and I
wouldn't always trusted her or done what
she asked me to but um she was there
and uh he came in and I was basically
tied to a bed um with panty
hose uh
and he tied him there were so tied I
could it hurt to even like lay there and
I tried to you know triy to say
something and it was like you know he's
just you know shut up you shut up [ __ ]
you know this is was basically like he
was he was being really really rough and
and I understand I don't I mean just
didn't seem like a fantasy um and I
started to get scared and and he was you
know basically like ripping my clothes
off and and I was actually really I
started I got freaked out and um I told
him that I didn't want to do this I was
you know I screamed over for Tiffany you
she was like Mr Trump she's only you
know she's not she's this is scaring her
and he's like oh you shut up too he just
turned into this animal it was like a
completely
different um completely compl different
person um it was like everyone in the
room was scared of him and uh I was um
it was like I
uh I couldn't do anything about
it
and he ripped off all my clothes
and
he started to basically have sex with me
and I screaming cuz I'd never had sex
before it was my first time and Tiffany
was yelling at him too she she was
saying I was a virgin and he told us to
just shut the [ __ ] up and just
basically took my virginity while I was
crying and telling him to stop and
that's basically begging for him to just
stop
uh and I don't I Tiffany
was didn't know what else to do either
she no one was there to help us or
me
um and
[Music]
so so after the fact he he he basically
finishes it you know didn't it didn't
take that long um at all I mean it but
it was just it felt like it was like 5
and 1 half hours like it was a eternity
like I don't even know how long it was
but um he was done and I was crying and
Tiffany was Consulting me and she was
you know apologizing she told me that
she would never she
didn't she just never put me in that
situation again but uh he comes over mad
because I was crying and so that I
should be thankful that someone like
Donald Trump took my virginity but he
basically didn't say took my virginity
he said I should be glad that someone
like Donald Trump popped my cherry and
not some pimply little
14-year-old and I just was like What if
I I I said what if I get pregnant not
even talking to him I didn't want to
talk to him I was talking to Tiffany and
he said well you'll get an abortion then
[ __ ] and then just walked away
um and I I I asked I I I went I told
Tiffany I needed to go home I never went
back again
I guess
um I guess it's for you to decide you
know I mean if I don't have any kids
myself um because I'm afraid to have
kids because I who knows what kind of
damage they can get into but if you have
a 13-year-old daughter and you're I mean
would you be okay with the person person
who's running our country doing that to
your little
girl and I
just I don't know I just want people to
know I think that I I have I have a
faith in our in our society that we'll
make the right
choice he seemed to be taking uh great
pleasure and like dominance and control
and and just the more I screamed the
more I got scared the more he was
enraged and like
power enraged with power and and it was
like he was just charged with it it was
scary my experience um with Donald Trump
and has made it to where um
I
I can't be in a healthy relationship
much less I can't be in a relationship
without um without myself sabotaging it
I don't um I don't do
well I I mean I I've I've been in I've
been in a couple of relationships I mean
they never of interest to me normally
but one in particular that was a a
wonderful he was a wonderful man and I
completely knowing I I I I had like
subconsciously it I couldn't even
control myself it was like I had to get
him out of my life because you know I
don't I don't know why it was like
anytime anyone loves me I don't feel
worth it or you know um
I've I mean
i' I don't even know how to explain it
like I can't friends I can have
acquaintance that guys that are
acquaintances but I just you know
anytime it's maybe someone express any
else besides that I
can't I take some type of pleasure not
some type of I don't take pleasure in it
but
subconsciously whether I mean to or not
sometimes I've meant to it's like i' i'
I've purposely hurt their feelings um
just so they'll never talk to me again
like I make sure that it's not ever a
possibility and Donald Trump Donald
Trump destroyed my feeling of selfworth
and my self-esteem when it was still
like when it was when it just bloomed it
hadn't even had a chance to experience
anything
um I have I have only spoken to to one
therapist about this just recently
actually
um I for the long time I just really
just tried to forget about it just tried
very hard but um I've been to counseling
for other things um and I went to
counseling for a previous the previous
relationship that I was sabotaging and
my counselor said something has happened
to you that where you were just you need
to deal with that that's actually what
kind of was like hm he knew that there
was something that had happened where I
was self self Saab you know sabotaging
these
relationships but you know he said that
it was my responsibility to deal with it
of
course uh this the situation with Donald
Trump has has left it destroyed my
self-esteem and and it's made it to
where I feel like it's destroyed part of
my life um I haven't the only he healthy
relationship I've completely
demolished um and I love to choose the
dysfunctional ones that I know I can
just push away uh
he after what happened with him
I can't trust a man ever
again
I thinking about it just makes
me sick to my
stomach someone when something so
traumatic happens to someone that's so
young you never ever really get over it
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Release the Epstein Files.
The Old Wolf has spoken, but Katie has spoken more loudly, and her words need to reverberate around the world until these child rapists are brought to justice.
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