UPDATE: They’re still active. The terms of acceptance on their contract refers to the terms and conditions at worldbusinesslist.net. One clause states, “At the beginning of the second, third and following years of the subscription the service provider will send the subscriber an invoice, the payments for the second, third and following years have to be done on the bank account of the service provider as mentioned. All invoices are payable two weeks from the date of the invoice. The service provider has the right to terminate the contract in the event of non payment within the aforementioned period of two weeks without a prior written notice.” Notice the bold text here: If you don’t pay your invoice, your contract will be terminated. So if you don’t want their service, don’t pay their invoice and ignore all communication from them or from any supposed “collection agency.”
UPDATE: The Dutch police are aware of these scammers. See this post for a letter from the Dutch police secretariat, a way to report correspondence, and their advice (send no money, do nothing).
I detailed the workings of this fraudulent operation back in 2013, and wondered at that time why the Dutch authorities don’t shut these scumsuckers down. (Edit: they’re working at it.)
They’re still at it.
Edit: Per a comment below, this scam may also come from “World Company List.” Same bad guys or another outfit just like them.
Edit 2 (11-23-2017): Numerous people have been deceived by this fraudulent outfit, and start getting threats from the legal firm of “Waldberg and Hirsch”, including demands for late fees. Feel free to use the following text if it is useful:
To whom it may concern:
I was deceived by your misleading solicitation, in the which you proclaim that “Updating is free of charge.” My submission was a mistake. I do not want an entry in your database, and I will never use your service. I will not pay for a service I have no intention of using. Please delete any such entry and all my information from your database and do not contact me again. Further contacts by you or your representatives will be forwarded to the relevant authorities.
Received today this email:
Subject: [SPAM] Business Registration 2015/2016
Ladies and Gentlemen.In order to have your company inserted in the registry of World Businesses List for 2015/2016 edition, please print, complete and submit the attached form (PDF file) to the following address:World Business ListP.O. BOX 30793502 GB, UtrechtThe Netherlandsemail: register@wbi2015.netfax: +31 20 524-8107Updating is free of charge!If you are not the intended recipient, please submit an email to remove@wbi2015.netYour request shall be dealt with accordingly.
- Now it’s “World Business List” instead of “European Trade Register.”
- The originating email is register@wbi2015.net instead of register@etr2013.net.
- The “sender” is Olivia Andre instead of Marta Low; my suspicion is that both the sender names and the originating email addresses are spoofed.
- The website is http://www.worldbusinesslist.net instead of http://www.european-traderegister.com (which is now 404.)
- “Updating” is still free of charge. It’s not until you get to the fine print that you find out you’ll be charged.
- The three-year price is now €995 instead of €990. Scamming expenses have apparently risen.
- The address is the same, so this is definitely the same outfit.
The Fine Print:
ORDER
THE SIGNING OF THIS DOCUMENT REPRESENTS THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS AND THE CONDITIONS STATED IN “THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR INSERTION” ON WEB PAGE: WWW.WORLD BUSINESSLIST.NET THE SIGNING IS LEGALLY BINDING AND GIVES YOU THE RIGHT OF AN INSERTION IN THE ONLINE DATABASE OF THE WORLD BUS INESS LIST WHICH CAN BE ACCESSED VIA THE INTERNET, ALL IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CONTRACT CONDITIONS STATED IN “THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR INSERTION” ON WEB PAGE: WWW.WORLDBUSINESSLIST.NET. THE VALIDATION TIME OF THE CONTRACT IS THREE YEARS AND STARTS ON THE EIGHTH DAY AFTER SIGNING THE CONTRACT. THE INSERTION IS GRANTED AFTER SIGNING AND RECEIVING THIS DOCUMENT BY THE SERVICE PROVIDER. I HEREBY ORDER A SUBSCRIPTION WITH SERVICE PROVIDER EU BUSINESS SERVICES LTD. “WORLD BUSINESS LIST”. I WILL HAVE AN INSERTION INTO ITS DATABASE FOR THREE YEARS. THE PRICE PER YEAR IS EURO 995. THE SUBSCRIPTION WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY EXTENDED EVERY YEAR FOR ANOTHER YEAR, UNLESS SPECIFIC WRITTEN NOTICE IS RECEIVED BY THE SERVICE PROVIDER OR THE SUBSCRIBER TWO MONTHS BEFORE THE EXPIRATION OF THE
SUBSCRIPTION. YOUR DATA WILL BE RECORDED. THE PLACE OF JURISDICTION IN ANY DISPUTE ARISING IS THE SERVICE PROVIDER’S ADDRESS. THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE SERVICE PROVIDER AND THE SUBSCRIBER IS GOVERNED BY THE CONDITIONS STATED IN “THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR INSERTION” ON WEB PAGE: WWW.WORLDBUSINESSLIST.NET
Notice the “legally binding” verbage. The enterprise name has changed, but the music remains the same.
Do not be taken in by these bottom-feeders. Refer to the previous entry for further details.
The Old Wolf has spoken.
Playing in the World Game 
i was being scammed by this World Business List. i thought it was Free of Charge, so i have signed the order form and email back to them. Now they are billing me 995euro. what should i do here? please advise. i am from Malaysia
Sorry that happened. As I wrote in my earlier post:
“If you happen to fall for this, these things will happen:
– The company will ignore any attempts to contact them
– If you simply refuse to pay, you will begin to get aggressive and threatening communications from a “global debt collection company,” Waldberg & Hirsch. That firm does not exist – it’s just the same drones trying to frighten you into paying. They will demand payment in full for the agreed-to three years, but will settle for one year’s payment if you’re foolish enough to send it.
The solution:
Just ignore them. They can’t sue you, because they are running a scam, they know it, and they don’t want to attract legal attention to themselves. Never pay these gong-farmers a cent; ultimately they’ll go away.
Be patient. Ignore any emails, letters, or calls. Send them no money.
Good luck.
the same is happening withe me. even i also dont know what to do.
I filled in the form and received the invoice. I have not paid it and wont. I suspect i will get the letters and calls but I will heed to your advice.
Many Thanks
You know what…? I would love to harass them as they are harassing thousands of people. If I were multimillionaire, I would even sue them for being such a pain…!
It would be great if we could.
Is the ignoring really works?
They also tricked me and I’m receiving email from them to pay the invoice for 995 and addition costs
– Late Payment Fee in the amount of EUR 99,-
– Administration Fee in the amount of EUR 35,-
What you think is it clever to send them letter I would like to be deleted from their list. At least to avoid later invoices if they found the way to bill this one.
I’m from Serbia
Now, remember, I’m not a lawyer. But I would ignore them. However, if you feel the need, you could write them a letter and say, “I was fooled by your deceptive email. I do not want to be included on your list. Please stop contacting me.” That way, you have expressly indicated that your submission was in error. Then you can ignore any further communication from them. They are running a scam. In order to pursue legal action against you, they would have to attract attention to their deceptive marketing practices, which they don’t want to do. Срећно.
Thanks
I have the same problem. Anyone has more information? I mean does the ignoring work?
You may keep getting emails or letters or calls from them; just don’t answer. They can do nothing to hurt you.
I am not licensed in your jurisdiction and cannot offer legal advice on this subject.
I can offer the practical advice that you might google for “world business list” and “judgment” and see if any come up.
Also check whether the form suggests that it might be enforceable in your jurisdiction. This is rather hypothetical, first you have to find any judgments and efforts to domesticate them into a defendant’s state. Good luck with that step.
Always good to see a legal perspective, even if “unofficial.”
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I am also a victim to fall into World Business List.
Why it can stay for such a long is because no one reports to the Netherlands Police Office. No one fights back! Why?
We may not be able to take back our loss, but we can help the next victime to be scammed!
Contact the Netherlands Police website and tell them your own experience, and ask the Netherlands Police to investigate World Business List and stop their scam. The Netherlands Office website: https://www.politie.nl/en/contact/contactform.html?sid=4897df86-2917-4c62-8add-282dcd25ff08.
You may also send an email to them:info@police.nl!
May I know has anyone of you ever verified World Business List’s legal identification? That is, does anyone know their company registration number with the Netherlands government, or their VAT/TAX number? Or does anyone know their company real address (can you believe they have 2 different PO boxes and 1 address in 3 different cities: Amsterdam on envelop, GA Utrecht on invoice, and Zeist on the sign form!!!)?
I am planning to make a petition letter for all the victims to appeal to the Netherlands Police Office. The victims can describe their loss or their bad experiences of being threatened. I wonder will you can support me to post this letter on your blog for these victims?
I would be pleased to do so. Just let me know where I can find it when you have it drafted.
Ok, thank you, Old Wolf! I will draft it and let you have the copy once it is done. Before that, I need to wait for the Netherlands government’s confimration on verifying Wold Business List’s legal status. I will keep you updated whenever there is a further feedback from the Netherlands government!
I am up for this, count me in.
Thank you, Dave. Welcome to join us!
Just received my reminder email requesting payment as its overdue. I will ignore it as suggested. Still very interested in joining any pettision to the Dutch police or similar. I did contact them directly and fill in their form but the language barrier prevented any further action.
Standing by for the next move.
Keep well.
Dave
I have completed the Petition draft in word file. Please let me know how do I upload the document to your blog so that all the victims can leave their information and send to the Netherlands government and the Netherlands Police Officers?
email it to me at TheOldWolf2017@hmamail.com
(this is a disposable email address.)
Dear Ling Yuan
Good Morning, would you please send me the draft copy your petition enabling me to send to the World business list because same thing is happening with me. the continuously sending mail to pay their dues with extra fees. The wrote today “QUOTE:
Dear Sirs,
Attached you may find the latest notification our Credit Department has issued (on 13/11/2017).
You will receive it by post soon, but I have attached it today so you can acknowledge it earlier.
The Notification confirms the procedure of forwarding your debt to be analyzed by a debt collection agency.
The actual debt your company has towards us – EUR 1129,-.
To avoid further steps and extra fees added to this amount, your performing the transfer for the above-detailed amount is the soonest step to be taken.
Regards,
Ms Andreea, Account Manager
Unquote
Sincerely yours
Nur Mohammad Nuru
I have emailed the petition to the above email. Please let me know in case it doesn’t arrive! Thank you, Old Wolf!
I got the mail, but not the petition (I guess attachments are not allowed). I sent you a direct email with my personal email address for you to try again.
Dear Ling Yuan,
Thank you very much for your response but your email yet to be received, Please re-send it .
Thank you
I have resent to your personal email. Thank you, Old Wolf.
The same is happening to me. They are aggressively threatening with court action. Am getting scared.
Gabriel
Gabriel, I’m sorry that you have to deal with this. Remember, I’m not an attorney, so I can’t give you official legal advice. But I will repeat the same thing I have said to others: Ignore these morons. They are all hot air and nothing else. If you feel like covering all your bases, you can respond with a brief letter that says something like “I’m sorry, I placed this listing in error. I do not wish to be listed in your directory. I politely decline to pay for a service that I will not receive.”
The business model is to deceive and then to intimidate. If they actually ever took someone to court, it would shine light on their deceptive and underhanded business practices. Short of the brief response I mentioned, or something similar, you need never correspond with them – just ignore their bullying communications. Eventually they will slink away to try their tactics on a more submissive victim.
Dear Wolf, I am collecting all the documents from World Business List as the evidences of harrassment (the Account Manager ever promised that he will not contact my previous company again and he eats up his words!). May I know if the final version of Petition will be moved on?
Hi All
Just ask them to provide you the company license and passport copy of the directors, sure they will stop, happened with me, however you can always register a case with your local cyber crime police they will take it from there and contact the Dutch Police.
best regards
Google : World Business List phone number, and you will see it has been reported as a scam fraud on Union of International Associations and others
Tel: 0031 208-080-789
https://www.google.com.tw/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Tel:++0031+208-080-789&btnK=Google%20%E6%90%9C%E5%B0%8B&spf=389
I just received an email from what may be another group of bottom feeders so I did a quick search and found your page.
Thanks for the info.
You will notice there are a couple of differences to your email.
The Address and Fax number is different but when i searched the fax number it along with the address have a history going back to 2014 which is why I think it may be another group of bottom feeders.
sent from: contact@worldcontactmedia.com
Subject: Pending – World Company List 2017/2018 [REF:FVI-34883]
Ladies and Gentlemen.
In order to have your business inserted in our registry of Universal Companies for the 2017-2018 edition: please print, complete and reply with the attached document (wbl-F1.jpg) or send it to the following address:
World-Business-List
Postbox 34
3700 AA Zeist
The Netherlands
Fax: +31 30 310 0126
Updates are free!
You received this email because this address
is listed in our database as being a business.
If we are mistaken please reply with the word
‘remove’ as subject and we will remove this
email address from our administration right away.
Thank you for this additional information!
I received this morning the letter from Waldberg & Hirsch Global Collections Ltd.
My Total has now risen to EUR 1429. I will stand fast and refuse to pay or reply to them. It is indeed a concern to keep receiving these threats, we must not weaken against these tyrants.
Dave
Best strategy. They count on people’s being afraid of their empty threats. Why the NL government doesn’t stamp these slugs out is beyond me.
Totally agree, I feel so sorry for those who have paid them. They will never see their money back. Surly the Dutch Government must stamp on them soon!!!!!
Dave.
I also one of the victims here. Their office based into Netherland but Bank Account into Malaga, Spain. Good that I found your sites. Will ignore them and will report to their Bank into Spain. Hope they can investigate as well.
Good work, the more people that know about this, the better.
Good afternoon, I have a similar situation completely, all the same pattern, there were letters, now phone calls started, threatening. Very exhausting. Don’t speak English, can understand and write, I’m from Russia, they write to all addresses of the company. Glad I found your form, and received confirmation that you want to ignore them!
Good work, pay no attention to these idiots.
Dear Sir, i am fro india & facing the same problem, they are demanding EUR 995 on account of listing in their directory.
should i move the case to indian police for safety.or advise me .
I am sorry you are facing this difficulty like so many other people. I am not an attorney, so I cannot really advise you officially, but I tell everyone who asks me the question to just ignore these idiots. They may make a lot of noise, but they will ultimately go away.
I put September 11, the prosecution until two days quiet.
here is what I got today:
To Sir/Madam,
We have to remind you the due date for the invoice no. 200244, issued for the insertion of Gift Way (OOO “Путь Подарка”) into the current edition of our Business Register (2017/2018) Ms Ekaterina Lebedeva ordered – was 08/05/2017.
Your debt to our company reached EUR 1429,-, as late payment, administration and legal fees have been added to the initial amount of the invoice (according to the legal letter dated 11th of September, 2017).
In case of non-payment, our Legal Counselor will issue the 2nd legal letter – within several weeks – increasing your debt with EUR 500, – additional legal fee.
Whether the payment of EUR 1129,- is effected by the 18th of September, 2017 the latest, you will save both our companies substantial costs, valuable time and avoid any unpleasant situations created by involving our lawyers.
If no payment is made available by the above-mentioned date, a payment less than the amount of EUR 1429, – will not solve the issue we obviously have with your company in your honoring your financial obligations towards us.
Attached you may find the scanned copy of the legal letter above-detailed.
Thank you for your time and cooperation for sending the proof of payment in return to this email.
Best regards,
Credit Department
Tel: +31 208080789
Fax: +31 205248107
I am Nur Mohammad from Bangladesh. I am also a victim to fall into World Business List.
I thought it was Free of Charge, so I have signed the order form and email back to them. Now they are billing me 995euro. After receive their bill I told them I wrongly signed and request them to remove my entry from their list. But they denied.
They also tricked me and I’m receiving email from them to pay the invoice for 995 and addition costs
– Late Payment Fee in the amount of EUR 99,-
– Administration Fee in the amount of EUR 35,
Please advise me what I have to do?
Ignore them completely. They make lots of noise, threaten people with legal action, and generally behave very badly, but there is nothing they can do. Give them no money. Ultimately they will go away.
Thank you very much for your nice suggestion, actually they create mental pressure to me, Now I am become feel free.
Just refuse payment and threaten back with giving them media attention in tv programs etc and that you will notify police. They will stop because they know damn well what they are trying.
Good suggestion!
May be they understand well. Long time they are not contacting with me for money.
Excellent. I suspect they go for people who can easily be intimidated.
May be. I was also intimidated when I got their invoice. Several time I request them to waive the inserting charge but the deny and create pressure to make payment otherwise they charge extra money for Late Payment Fee in the amount of EUR 99 and Administration Fee in the amount of EUR 35, After that I ignoring them completely. As a result they are not disturbing me since long. Hope bad element go away. Thank you very much The Old wolf for your good suggestion and advice. God bless you for your nice suggestion which you extend to the World Business List victim.
Regards
Nur Mohammad Nuru
My experience is running since November 2016. When I got Invoice to pay, I emailed them and informed that, we are not interested to participate in this program. There after started to receive Reminders, final notices etc.. Completely ignored. In June 2017, received legal notice again ignored.
What is surprising me that, they have renewed the subscription for another one year, and the new Invoice shows only subscription charges for two years. All other legal charges are not appearing in the new Invoice.(As per the legal notice from the collection agent, I must pay them Euro 1929/- (One Year subscription = Euro 995+Late payment fee = Euro 99+Administration fee Euro 35 + Legal fee Euro 300 + Additional Legal fee = Euro 500) and the new Invoice I received recently for Euro 2124/- (One year subscription = Euro 995/- + Second year subscription = Euro 995/- + Late payment fee = Euro 99 + Administrative fee = Euro 35)
Also they are giving you discount of Euro 134/- for early payments !!! What a generous !!!
Hello, we have a similar experience with this company. We contacted the Dutch police and deferred this clear statement:
Good afternoon sir/madam,
In case of fraud (payment), the police must report.
As of 2015 people will be warned for this company.
I can not say if there have been investigations in the past about this company.
In any case, you can send your mail to valse-email@fraudehelpdesk.nl. That you receive any invoices.
See below the warning about this company
DOUBLE FORM ABOUT WORLD BUSINESS DIRECTORY
March 4, 2015
Entrepreneurs get a form of EU Business Services Ltd. The company collects company data to be published in World Business Directory. It seems to be a free update, but who signs a contract of three years.
Advice
You do not have to do anything. You are not obliged to respond to these types of offers. You can simply throw the document away.
Have you also received a dubious mail? Let us know so that we can warn others.
Warning for World Business List emails
Watch for an e-mail about enrollment at the World Business List in Zeist. This e-mail is from the address: general.company@globalcompanies.online or info88@globalcompanies.online. and contains a PDF file where “the company” indicates that you can be in a list of companies when you fill out the form. If you return this you will be stuck for three years. It seems free, but costs 995 euros a year.
Kind regards
Sandy Honders-Egter
Medewerkster wijksecretariaat
Politie I Midden-Nederland I Utrecht stad I wijkteam Centrum
Kroonstraat 25, 3511 RC Utrecht
Postbus 8300, 3503 RH Utrecht
T 0900-8844
Werkdagen: maandag, dinsdag, woensdag
Thank you very much for this valuable information!
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14th December 2017
Yesterday I got a letter from Ms Andreea, Account Manager of world business list which as follows
QUOTE
Legal procedures – Unpaid invoice due on 21/08/2017 / FAO Administration/Management/Legal department
From EUBS / Ms Andreea
To Syed Sohel
Reply-To andreeab@eubusinessservices.com
Date 13TH DECEMBER, 2017 Wed AT 20:54
Sirs,
I am hereby attaching the last reminder we are forwarding for your attention in regards to the still unpaid invoice we have issued on 24th of July, 2017, covering the services you have ordered through a legally binding order (attached) placed and sent on behalf of your company therefore requesting the invoiced registration service, duly delivered and unpaid to this day.
The attached notification confirms the schedule of your archive being forwarded to a debt collection agency and we are advising you, with this email, to contract a Lawyer to be properly represented as soon as this step is taken.
We are also informing you that EUR 300,- extra fee is added to the actual debt you have towards us (EUR 1129,-) – as part of the agreement not respecting the clauses agreed upon the day the request was validated.
Our department is at your disposal only for transfer of payment and avoidance of the legal fee discussions no later than the end of next week.
Regards
Ms Andreea, Account Manager
UNQUOTE
Following was my reply to Ms Andreea,
Inspite my several request you are not stopping to harass me.
As there is no alternative I am forwarding your mail to
Nether land Police to their email : valse-email@fraudehelpdesk.nl
Hope they will decide what we have to do.
is it ok? Pls advice
Excellent response. I have always made sure to let these people know that their form for submission is deceptive, that it was submitted in error, that I do not want a listing in their directory, and it should be deleted promptly, and that I will be paying them nothing. I will never pay for a service that I did not request and have no intention of using. Telling them that their information will be forwarded to the Netherlands police is a good thing.
We got a reply from Amsterdam Police
Politie Amsterdam
Postbus 2287
1000 CG Amsterdam
This is a no-reply mail. Use the contact option on http://www.politie.nl for further questions.
Dear sir, madam,
This is a confirmation of the email you sent us.
Thank you for your e-mail. We can see that is a scam. There is a lot of information and warnings on the internet about this company. Some people warned this company to go to the media or file a report if they don’t stop. This was sufficient to stop them.
The last thing you can do is report this crime. Please ask your local police.
We hope to have provided you with sufficient information.
Kind regards,
Regional Service Centre, Police of Amsterdam
Politie | Amsterdam | Regionaal Service Centrum
Elandsgracht 117, 1016 TT Amsterdam
Postbus 2287, 1000 CG Amsterdam
T 0900 8844
Thanks for this valuable information!
After long time I received the following message from The world business list with a legal notice which is as follows:
QUOTE
Unsolved dispute – The unpaid invoice no. 203781
From EUBS / Credit Department
To info@ashamtl.com
Date Today 18:06
Priority Highest
Contact photo
Attachments
To Sir/Madam,
We have to remind you the due date for the invoice no. 203781, issued for the insertion of ASHA MOTORS LTD into the current edition of our Business Register (2017/2018) Mr Syed Abdullahel Sohel ordered – was 21/08/2017.
Your debt to our company reached EUR 1429,-, as late payment, administration and legal fees have been added to the initial amount of the invoice (according to the legal letter dated 22nd of January, 2018).
In case of non-payment, our Legal Counselor will issue the 2nd legal letter – within several weeks – increasing your debt with EUR 500, – additional legal fee.
Whether the payment of EUR 1129,- is effected by the 30th of January, 2018 the latest, you will save both our companies substantial costs, valuable time and avoid any unpleasant situations created by involving our lawyers.
If no payment is made available by the above-mentioned date, a payment less than the amount of EUR 1429, – will not solve the issue we obviously have with your company in your honoring your financial obligations towards us.
Attached you may find the scanned copy of the legal letter above-detailed.
Thank you for your time and cooperation for sending the proof of payment in return to this email.
Best regards,
Credit Department
Tel: +31 208080789
Fax: +31 205248107
UNQUOTE
Immediately after received the message I forwarded the same to NL Police to their e-mail address i.e. valse-email@fraudehelpdesk.nl. the contents of the mail are as follows:
QUOTE
25th January 2018
The Regional Service Centre, Police of Amsterdam
Politie | Amsterdam | Regionaal Service Centrum
Elandsgracht 117, 1016 TT Amsterdam
Postbus 2287, 1000 CG Amsterdam
Dear Sir
I am Nur Mohammad from Bangladesh. We are the victim of World Business List. Our one employ who fill-up an order letter because he thought it was Free of Charge, so he have put an scan sign of our MD in the order form and email back to them. Now they are billing me 995euro.
After receive their bill we told them It was wrongly signed and request them to remove our entry from their list. But they denied. As a result the concern employ sacked.
The World Business list tricked us and we are receiving email from them to pay the invoice for 995 and addition costs
– Late Payment Fee in the amount of EUR 99,-
– Administration Fee in the amount of EUR 35,
To day we received another mail from World Business List which is self explanatory. The charged our company EUR 1429. More over they threading me to face legal action. I am forwarding the said message for your kind information and necessary action.
Inspite my several request they do not stopping to harass me.
As there is no alternative I am forwarding this mail to you.
Hope your will do the best and relive me from their mental torture.
Thanking you in advance for your nice cooperation and oblige thereby.
Sincerely yours
Nur Mohammad
Asha Motors Ltd
UNQUOTE
If you advice I can send you the legal notice which I received from WALDBERG & HIRSCH. Global collections ltd. http://www.whgcollections.com, email. info@whgcollections.com
You are requested to kindly confirm is it ok or not? I am seeking your good suggestion and oblige thereby.
With the caveat as usual that I am not an attorney, if I were in your shoes I would write these criminals the following brief note:
“To whom it may concern:
I do not want your services. The application was submitted in error. Remove my company from your database. I refuse to pay for services I will not be using. Do not send me any further correspondence. Your previous letter and any further contact will be forwarded to the Netherlands Police. If your attorneys become involved, their names and addresses will also be forwarded to the Netherlands police.”
That, or just ignore them.
!حظا طيبا وفقك الله
The Old Wolf
As per your suggestion I replied the following:
QUOTE
To EUBS / Credit Department
Cc valse-email@fraudehelpdesk.nl
Date Fri 12:02
Priority Highest
26th January 2018
To
Ms Andreea, Account Manager
World-Business-List
Postbox 34
3700 AA Zeist
Nederland
Dear Ms Andreea,
We are the victim of your World Business List. Our one employ who fill-up an order form because he thought it was Free of Charge, so he have put an scan sign of our MD in the order form and email back to you. I do not want your services. The application was submitted in error. Remove my company from your database. I refuse to pay for services I will not be using. Do not send me any further correspondence. Your previous letter and any further contact will be forwarded to the Netherlands Police. If your attorneys become involved, their names and addresses will also be forwarded to the Netherlands police.”
Hope you never harass me again.
Thanking you for your understanding.
Sincerely yours
Hello Everybody!
I am in a same trouble, I will ingnore all of letters and calls!
Thank you all of your help and power!
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I have learned that before taking action on unexpected emails to search the Internet. Thank you Old Wolf for warning us. I sent the email I received to the Netherlands police as listed from Czeck firm. I also sent this response to them:
“To whom it may concern:
Remove my name and email address from your database IMMEDIATELY. This email has been forwarded to the Netherlands Police. With GDPR in Europe soon to launch you will be legally required to remove my name from your database or face a hefty fine.
The time for this SCAM is up!!”
Thanks to all here for their contribution to stopping this nonsense.
Great response!
i am 92 years old-online prox 15 years–i am amazed the number of people that do not check everything-i mean everything on google or elsewhere before sending in money–or even responding to anything
If only those folks could learn from older and wiser people like you! Congrats
Hello! Also a victim. Will ignore every emails or contacts. Thanks for the information.
These buggers have been bugging me as well quite long. I don’t pay any heed to them.
They wrote me a mail as below
From: EUBS / Ms Helena
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 5:00 PM
To:
Subject: Fwd: Notification/ Ref. Unpaid Invoice
——– Forwarded Message ——–
Subject: Notification/ Ref. Unpaid Invoice
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 11:14:39 +0300
Sirs,
Attached you may find the latest notification our Credit Department has issued (on 02/07/2018).
The Notification confirms the procedure of forwarding your debt to be analyzed by a debt collection agency.
The actual debt your company has towards us is listed on the attached notification.
To avoid further steps and extra fees added to this amount, your performing the transfer for the above-detailed amount is the soonest step to be taken.
Regards,
Ms Helena, Account Manager
+31 208 080 789
I had responded back stating
“Instead we are aware of your origin and this is the origin of your scam
https://playingintheworldgame.com/2015/01/24/world-business-list-this-scam-just-wont-die/
So we know who you are and we are blocking all your mails. Don’t intimidate!
We have checked your company in details
https://www.similarweb.com/website/worldbusinesslist.net
Just shit to trap us and others. We don’t mind reporting ahead.”
Well done! Thank you very much for contributing to the conversation. At some point it is to be hoped that these drones will be shut down forever.
Dear sirs, they did the same to us, do they can sue us in Egypt?
Not likely. Ignore them.
We got a similar e-mail today..
Ladies and Gentlemen.
In order to have your company inserted in
our registry of General Companies for the
2018-2019 edition: please print, complete
and reply with the attached form
(wbl-ffc.jpg) or send it to the following address:
World-Business List
Postbus 34
3700 AA Zeist
Nederland
Fax: 0031 30 310 0126
Updates are free!
You received our message because this address
is listed in our administration as being a business.
If we’re mistaken please reply with the word
‘delist’ as subject and we’ll delist this
email address from our database accordingly.
By all means, ignore this email.
Reply back to them that you are going to file a counterclaim in your local court. You can actually file suit on them for harassment and force appear in your local court. They will not reply and you will have a default judgement.
Io ho avuto la sessa mail ho timbrato e firmato il modulo volontariamente,
la posta non è certificata e quindi possono solo pensare ma non possono fare nulla, gli ho riferito che la stessa è stata inviata alla Polizia Postale, inoltre gli ho riferito che se eventualmente vogliono i soldi devono venire di persona a prenderli. Penso che non verranno mai (magari vengono).
NON FATEVI INTIMIDIRE.
Eccelente, Lei ha fatto molto bene. ‘Sti stronzi devono essere incarcerati per secoli. Auguri!
Hi – we were initially suckered but two days later, after sending them the form saying we assume that the entry is free, we then sent another e mail saying we did not want to be listed. Needless to say we got lots of e mails and then a fax raising the amount by the seemingly bogus collection agency. We reported them to the Dutch Police and UK Action Fraud Web site. I suggest instead of just ignoring them, also report them to the local police for fraud! The more people who report them to their local Police, the more likely they will be shut down 🙂
hello, I falled in the same trap with my company and signed their form. they kept on sending me Emails with the invoice and the amount to pay. As I found many advice inside this blog, I sent them an Email with Warning to take me imediately out of their data base and promised to do the same to their Bank in Spain and the same to the Dutch police for Fraud. Since two days now, I did not received any sign from them. Seems to work that way. here is the contact info@police.nl! with CC to valse-email@fraudehelpdesk.nl
below is my Email to them
Ms Sophie,
Now I have the confirmation and the proof that you are scammer by what I saw through internet. I am not the only victim of your fraud.
Please make me a favor, could provide your company’s license and passport copy of the directors? provide also your real Id, I mean your full name and address, I need those information before moving forward.
As Account Manager, I am supposed to get your full contact information.
My next Email to you will be to info@police.nl! with CC to valse-email@fraudehelpdesk.nl
I will report also your Bank in Spain as I have all data related to that Account.
For now I am collecting all the documents from World Business List as the evidences of harrassment
will also search media attention both to you and to the Bank if nothing is done on their side. I will consider them complice.
I got the advice from
Sandy Honders-Egter
Medewerkster wijksecretariaat
Politie I Midden-Nederland I Utrecht stad I wijkteam Centrum
Kroonstraat 25, 3511 RC Utrecht
Postbus 8300, 3503 RH Utrecht
T 0900-8844
Werkdagen: maandag, dinsdag, woensdag
Very well done, Miv!
I just got one here in America:
=========================
Hello,
In order to have your company inserted in the World Business List for 2019/2020, please print, complete and submit the attached form (PDF file) to the following address:
World Business List
P.O. BOX 34
3700 AA ZEIST
THE NETHERLANDS
Fax: +31 205 248 107
You can also scan the completed form and attach it in a reply to this email.
Updating is free of charge.
==========================
I am used to getting phone calls daily from people trying to pilfer my credit card info, fake vehicle warranty, medical inquiries, debt relief from colleges i never went to. We have all been sent scams from every prince in Nigeria as well. REMEMBER THOSE GUYS?
Legitimate businesses do not really ever send out contact seeking information. Never once have I been emailed out of the blue by a real legitimate company.
…
STRAIGHT TO TRASH BIN. Then to internet to look up scam.
^
Do this first before even opening an attachment in an email from a complete stranger.
Well spoken, Sir!
Hi, The Old Wolf:
i am maybe another victim, but i do wish i were the last one.
This God-dam company trapped and threatened me to pay 1000 euro for the first year in 2018; and now they come back for the 2nd year. Because i thought i signed the paper, i paid them last year, and also asked Sophie to stop/cancel this deal immediately so that i won’t need to pay for the 2nd and 3rd year. She agreed and told me that my request for cancelling the contract will be validated upon receipt of the first year payment. But now they said this is a 3-year contract and cannot be cancelled. My God! Any contract in this world can be cancelled or terminated if one party is not satisfied with the other party; this group of cheats do not understand law at all.
After knowing that there are so many people that have been cheated by this illegal company, i have decided to follow your advice: Just ignore them from now onward.
thank you for your advice and valuable information; i guess many people have benefited from this site.
Sincerely,
Michael
Thank you so much for your comment. I’m sorry that you got sucked into this scam, but I’m glad that my small contribution has been helpful in some degree. Like you, I wish somebody would put these scum-suckers out of business.
Just reported them to https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/
Completely ridiculous that they have not been shut down.
Well done, thank you!
Dear the Old Wolf
Thank you very much for your nice cooperation regarding the scam.
Now I am quite free from the mental pressure from World Business since
long. Hope they understood well that I never pay them single coin.
Thank you once again for your valuable advice.
Wishing Your all the best.
Nur Mohammad Nuru
Bangladesh
You are most welcome, glad it was helpful!
Thanks for all your messages and info
Joanna/ Account Manager
Your account is now more than one month past due in our records. To this date, we have not received payment of EUR 995,- for the invoice number 223243, issued for your company’s subscription into our business register, services we have rendered to DALGEOTours honouring your request placed on 13/09/2019.
Please be informed that in case of additional late payment we reserve our right to charge you additionally EUR 99,- Late Payment Fee and EUR 35,- Administration Fee due to your delaying the payment.
A reminder will be issued to your company on the 18th of November, 2019, announcing the amount increase to be applied
If payment has been recently transferred, please reply with the proof of payment, for identification purposes and avoidance of this increase latest end of this week.
Best regards,
Joanna, Account Manager
Tel: 0031 208080789
We have sent this after looking through your page:
To whom it may concern:
I was deceived by your misleading solicitation, in the which you proclaim that “Updating is free of charge.” My submission was a mistake. I do not want an entry in your database, and I will never use your service. I will not pay for a service I have no intention of using. Please delete any such entry and all my information from your database and do not contact me again. Further contacts by you or your representatives will be forwarded to the relevant authorities.
Russia, Khabarovsk
12/12/2019
Hi Old Wolf, thanks for putting all this together and combatting this blatant scam.
They are still very much active, sending bi-weekly reminders per email and normal mail. Latest news is that our file has been handed over to their ‘debt-collector’.
We stick to the plan and ‘do nothing’.
For completeness sake, they now communicate through nicholas@accountingseo.net
+31208080789
Thank you for the update! It boggles my mind that these people have not been shut down by the authorities.
Hello, after i got their invoice i send them this:
Dear Nicholas,
as your invoice doesn’t have all the legal info it should contain, please forward me your company’s license.
As I was instructed by the NL Authorities, you should provide us with these info.
The license should be sent to
valse-email@fraudehelpdesk.nl
Sandy Honders-Egter
Medewerkster wijksecretariaat
Politie I Midden-Nederland I Utrecht stad I wijkteam Centrum
Kroonstraat 25, 3511 RC Utrecht
Postbus 8300, 3503 RH Utrecht
(i wanted to troll the scammer) and after i send him this:
To conclude,
your email was misleading and under your terms theservice provider has the right to terminate the contract in the event of non payment within the aforementioned period of two weeks without a prior written notice.
With this letter, we withdraw from your contract that we were mislead into.
This email will also be forwarded to the nl police department and the Union of International Associations
I will make a few efforts to take them down will let you know how it goes
Gefeliciteerd en bedankt!
Was it sucessful? I have the same problem.
I want to thank the contributors regarding this ‘worldbusinesslist’ scam. This “directory co.” sent me a form and I want to thank all of your for saving me time and hassle, had I enrolled in their program. I was about to read their ‘terms-of-use’: now I don’t have to bother. Thanks from USA!
I’m glad you found it useful! These guys need to roast in Tophet!
All the time I read that this company is Dutch. But this company is registered in Spain! Anybody checked this?